I received this post (actually two submissions of the post) in my spam queue when I blogged on Andre using twitter to keep us in the loop. For those of you who don’t know, Andre Carson is the second muslim elected to the House (Go Hoosier progressives!). It’s not surprising that there’s a large fear movement on Islam’s alleged takeover of the U.S.
There’s not a lot out here on the Internet on Carson, something I’m looking to rectify. This goal to post more information on Rep. Carson won out over my hesitation to leave these posts in my spam folder. We’ve got a ways to go, eh?
Sal |
It seems your congressman is socializing with CAIR, named unindicted co-conspirator in a federal terror financing trial whose many of its members are in jail for that matter.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016754.php
In this link: http://www.masjidomar.com/images/Vote2008.jpg , you will see that the congressman whom you helped elect has participated in an event at the Islamic Institute of Orange County last Saturday, 8,16, 2008
Learn more about Congressman Carson activities with terror orientated groups here:
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3395
Congressman Carson is either naive, or…..
5 Comments
August 27, 2008 at 5:55 am
First, when one leaves a comment on your blog with its email address, it says that the email address will not be published while it is required. Why then you broke your commitment to do just that? Shame n you!
Secondly, the fact above regarding Andre Carson sympathizing with CAIR, an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal trial about funding terrorism whose several members are in jail today and who also laud Hizb’Allah and Hamas, has nothing to do with what you and other cowards call “Islamophobia”, a word that is easily adopted by Islamomaniacs who deny the shortcomings/barbarism/terrorism emanating from the Arab Muslim world which obviously and clearly is a global threat today even to ordinary Arab and Muslim people.
A decent rational human being including Muslims can never ignore the current and vast radical Islamist indoctrination of a branch of Islam based on hatred, lies and distortions against the “infidels”/West happening as we speak.
You, what ever your name is, seem to be of the same ilk of those American Muslim organizations such as CAIR, MPAC, ISNA, MAS, MES, MSA, et al, who should know better as an Americans, but can’t take self criticism and use an introspect to deal with the facts about terrorism and barbarism as clearly apparent in the Muslim Arab world today, regretfully.
And coward you, who do not disclose your name, also easily resort to call it “Islamophobia” instead of dealing with the evil and backwardness rooted in the Arab Muslim teaching of radical Islam today; instead and indeed you choose denial.
In his psychoanalytical theory, Sigmund Freud described denial as a primitive mechanism of defense.
But again shame on you for not keeping your promise not to publish email addresses, let alone IPC, not that I care!
In addition do get some education about this issue here: http://counterterrorismblog.org/2008/08/the_fbicair_relationship_could.php
And here: http://www.nysun.com/national/islamic-groups-named-in-hamas-funding-case/55778/
God bless America and the free world! And do seek healings because with people of your mind frame, humanity will not survive as it will lack honesty, dignity and decency!
August 27, 2008 at 11:36 am
Fair enough on the e-mail address. It has been removed. That was an honest mistake, wasn’t intentional, and it shouldn’t have been posted. Now on to your comments.
It is ironic that you lambast me for lack of honesty, dignity, and decency. If I had no honesty and dignity, would I not even post your comment to begin with? It is unfair for you to try to connect Andre Carson as a radical muslim. Assuming you are Christian, this would be the same as demanding you to explain why you endorse polygamist Mormanism or the Klu Klux Klan.
your claims of Carson being a supporter of radical Jihad, which you imply in your post, have everything to do with Islamophobia. If you had a dollar for every time a politician accepted a donation or endorsement from a questionable entity and then returned it (which he did), you’d be a rich person. Why cast our respected Hoosier representative that way with a situation many politicians, regardless of their religion or race, experience?
From your own article, we can see your association of Carson and CAIR and its accusations of supporting terrorism are weak. One of your links state, “the practice of publicly naming unindicted co-conspirators is frowned on by some in the legal community, chiefly because there is no trial or other mechanism for those named to challenge their designation. Justice Department guidelines discourage the public identification of unindicted co-conspirators by the government.” You are basing your accusations on an Indianapolis native who is as American as you or I on a legal designation that is
not a formal charge. Had there been any shred of solid evidence, would these labels of co-conspirator be elevated to formal charges of supporting terrorism? Given our domestic police state, don’t you think that evidence would be uncovered?
I’m not going to get into a pissing match with you on Islam vs. Christianity. Christians and Muslims both hate and display ignorance and disrespect for human equality, so I would be careful being the ‘pot that called the kettle black’. I just don’t want you to fear muslims and people of arab descent.
August 27, 2008 at 7:31 pm
SEE MY NOTES *** RESPONDING TO YOUR COMMENTS:
You wrote: Fair enough on the e-mail address. It has been removed. That was an honest mistake, wasn’t intentional, and it shouldn’t have been posted. Now on to your comments.
***I APPRECIATE IT. Indeed u r FORGIVEN.
You wrote: It is ironic that you lambast me for lack of honesty, dignity, and decency. If I had no honesty and dignity, would I not even post your comment to begin with?
***I APPRECIATED THIS TOO, it is only fair, thx. but LET’S EXAMINE..DIALOGUE.
You wrote: It is unfair for you to try to connect Andre Carson as a radical muslim. Assuming you are Christian, this would be the same as demanding you to explain why you endorse polygamist Mormanism or the Klu Klux Klan.
***ANDRE CARSON is responsible for his own trails, don’t blame others for it. And . NO..NE JAMAIS.. NEVER ENDORSE SUCH EVIL AS POLIGAMISTS, MORMANISM COMONISM, KKK, NAZISM, EGYPTIAN/GLOBAL MUSLIM BROTHERHOODISM, ISLAMISM, AL QAEDAISM, HIZB’ALLAH, HAMAS,PLO, FATAH supremacists or separatism, ETC.
You wrote: Your claims of Carson being a supporter of radical Jihad, which you imply in your post, have everything to do with Islamophobia. If you had a dollar for every time a politician accepted a donation or endorsement from a questionable entity and then returned it (which he did), you’d be a rich person. Why cast our respected Hoosier representative that way with a situation many politicians, regardless of their religion or race, experience?
***AGAIN DON’T BLAME CARSON’S TRAILS ON REO..
BUT let’s discuss that term ISLAMOPHOBIA:
In Journal of Sociology, Vol. 43, No. 1, 61-86 (2007) islamophobia is defined as anti-Muslim racism and a continuation of anti-Asian and anti-Arab racism. SO YOU MAY HAVE A POINT because humanity dwelt on MANY OTHER PHOBIAS. Does this term, ISAMOPHOBIA, has reallysuch merit today? Muslims in the West live in prosperity and share in the same freedom fairly equally, do they not? But IN VIEW OF GLOBAL Islamism as FACTS ON THE GROUND Shows about the horror, backwardness and unspeakable, beheading, mutilation, suicide bombing culture on a daily bases , I do believe that especially rational Muslim should fight against yet, it APPEARS THAT SOME AMERICAN MUSLIM and their appeasers, seriously EXPLOIT this term, “Islamophobia”. “British columnist Josie Appleton argues Runnymede Trust uses the term Islamophobia to prevent criticism of Islam. “Rather than engage Muslims in debate . ”
It is seen as a political ideology, used for political or military advantage.
British Muslim writer and academic Kenan Malik has criticized the concept, calling it a “myth.”
And in this instant, you too apply an inapplicable term to the evidence.
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You wrote: From your own article, we can see your association of Carson and CAIR and its accusations of supporting terrorism are weak. One of your links state, “the practice of publicly naming unindicted co-conspirators is frowned on by some in the legal community, chiefly because there is no trial or other mechanism for those named to challenge their designation. Justice Department guidelines discourage the public identification of unindicted co-conspirators by the government.” You are basing your accusations on an Indianapolis native who is as American as you or I on a legal designation that is
not a formal charge. Had there been any shred of solid evidence, would these labels of co-conspirator be elevated to formal charges of supporting terrorism? Given our domestic police state, don’t you think that evidence would be uncovered?
SIR, please, don’t truncate the information. Carefully read again: http://counterterrorismblog.org/2008/08/the_fbicair_relationship_could.php
“”… In the absence of some significant justification, federal prosecutors generally should not identify unindicted co-conspirators in conspiracy indictments.” ”
IT APPEARS YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE and deny the facts in the face of glaring EVIDENCES, I am afraid. Have you done your homework well? IF NOT LET ME HELP. Dig in, read here:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=us&q=CAIR++HEADS+ARRESTED+AND+JAILED+&btnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web
You wrote: I’m not going to get into a pissing match with you on Islam vs. Christianity. Christians and Muslims both hate and display ignorance and disrespect for human equality, so I would be careful being the ‘pot that called the kettle black’. I just don’t want you to fear muslims and people of arab descent.
***I FEAR NO ONE BUT THE HEAVENS ABOVE. in fact I love arab and muslim foods and music at time just like any other color, or traditions.. but hey, face the menace, don’t blame it on other nor ignore it or rather put a veil over your face as if evil does not exist. So so long, BUT before do note RUDYARD KIPLING:
Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,
Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat;
But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth!
(from ‘The Ballad of East and West’)
Also note Friedrich Nietzsche:
“He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.”
HAVE A GOOD DAY, hoping that we, you and Carson, will make no egregious mistakes especially when our troops are in the front line trying to defend freedom for us all. And don’t tell me that the 9/11 was not good enough lesson for you to really get it!
With the love for the USA and the free world,
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August 27, 2008 at 9:50 pm
I respect that we have different opinions and am glad to have received your input! thank you.
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